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#121 Re: Where to Ride? » Are the a lot width restrictions on ATV trails in Utah? » 2011-05-17 21:48:25

Does the forest service and/or BLM impose width restrictions on ATV type trails? I’m curious if the RZR allows you to legally access a lot more trails.

Most areas allow the 50" RZR but more are now posting a "no side x side" on them too. I have had a rhino and a rzr4 and still have seen only minimal limits in most areas. Paiute has a few 50" only trails.

Its bad here in cali on most things but I have not seen much or have been hassled for over 50". Utah is a long trip for me to do moab and seeing all the restrictions there also prevents me on going on these trips along with the cost. With our friends property along with all the local riding withen 100 miles from where I live, It just does not make much sense to do a long range trip like to moab. I would rather read all the stories instead even though I would like to meet some of the members on this site face to face.....

#122 Re: Yamaha Rhino Performance Mods » 450 Rhino High Flow Billet Fuel Pickup.. HELP » 2011-05-11 11:27:18

I haven't purchased a single Castrol product since then! Courts didn't know @$$ from ground zero, but it seems they miss the mark on many occasions. That is good info for those looking to understand oils. Be carefull about the field of Tribology, the next thing you know you will have spent a fortune on books. I sure spent more than I should have but  enjoyed the knowledge

I also stopped buying Fram Oil Filter product because they changed the manufacturing process. In the early 80s we used to cut oil filters open to see how our race engines were holding together. We used a lot of fram product then and all there oil filters were of above standards in quality and had metal end caps and very good anti drain back and bypass valves. Now they have cardboard end caps and the valves leak like the titanic. I found this out not by cutting one open but reading an article on it. I then cut one open and behold the article was correct. They are junk and would never use them again......

If anyone wants to read a real good review of oil filters. check the link below. It may just change your mind on what you use :idea:  wink

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w … ChMJJHZ3gQ

#123 Re: Yamaha Rhino Performance Mods » 450 Rhino High Flow Billet Fuel Pickup.. HELP » 2011-05-10 10:50:41

I like synthetic oils, just make sure you get the right grade. Yamaha has high quality 4stroke synthetic oils. I have also used Mobil One, just don't use the energy conserving type, they have an additive to reduce friction more than regular oil, slick stuff if you can call it that. Your 450 has a shoe type wet clutch, it runs in the oil. The special additive in energy conserving oils can coat the friction materials on the shoe and lead to slippage. It would almost be like a glazed brake pad, it's an expensive part that you won't want to replace if you don't have to. BTW I am sure that the plastic fuel pickup could be broken, I haven't seen it or done it yet, but look around and darn near every thing is plastic these days.

Good point on the wet clutch, I made that mistake a long time ago with a 250 Mojave. Anything that has a wet clutch should run an oil intended for that type of system. I use Mobile One 4T Synthetic on my XR650. Polaris UTVs do not use wet clutches so any good 0-40 or 5-40 synthetic oil is good. I use Royal Purple because it uses a real PAO base oil unlike the ones that claim to be full synthetic using group 3 base stock oils. PAO or Diester base stocks are group 4 and 5.....

Due to a lawsuit or grievance filed some time back, Mobile One Versus Castrol in the 90s. Motor Oils in the USA can now claim to read to be full synthetic on the bottle using Group 3 Base oils. This is still not allowed almost anywhere else and oils made overseas like Castrol Syntec must use group 4 base oils unlike the group 3 base oils they sell here. If Castrol sells a quart of oil overseas using group 3 oils they must remove the full synthetic label from the bottle. This all was decided by the People or judges at NAD that probably have no idea where the dipsticks are in there own cars and ruled in favor of Castrol on the lawsuit. Even now Mobile One uses Group 3 base-oils in this country on lots of mobile one products due to the manufacture cost of groups 4 and 5 base oils. It is safe to say that any of the lower cost synthetic oils except the high end mobile one products are group 3 now. Amsoil, Royal Purple, Redline, Schaffer, Mobile One Delvac 1 would be considered Group 4 oils.....

In regards to the Viscosity of oils. An oil sold as 10w-40 is no thicker than 10 weight oil under Winter (10w) conditions, meaning below freezing. The 40 means it is no thinner than 40 weight oil at 212 Fahrenheit. So, the first number tells us the performance of the oil at or below the temperature of freezing water, and the second number tells us the performance at the temperature of boiling water. The chemicals added to the oil to accomplish this are called Viscosity Index Improver's (VIIs). Running a zero weight oil versus a Five weight oil at temperatures above freezing is safe and will not hurt any engine. In fact at -10 below zero it is still safe to run, but I would not do the same thing with a 15w or 20w due to the fact it would be to thick at those temperatures. As for very hot climates 95 to 115 degrees on my Fords and work trucks, I run a 30w over the recommended 20w, 40w over the recommended 30w oils during these hotter times.....

#124 Re: Yamaha Rhino Performance Mods » 450 Rhino High Flow Billet Fuel Pickup.. HELP » 2011-05-09 19:05:48

Thanks for all the information. I just purchased this Rhino on Friday and am learning about it. I just seen this billet things everywhere and they talked about how great they were as he factory plastic break easy. When it came in today I was confused to why it had two so now I know and will cap off for now.On another question is Synthetic oil a good or bad idea ? Thanks

As smokey yunick once said, Conventional oil is as antiquated as the model "T". It is really the only way to go :idea:  big_smile .....

#125 Re: General Polaris Ranger and Polaris RZR Discussions » RZR `S` 2009 clutch and belt » 2011-05-09 18:59:39

In 2009, the RZR-s runs a different belt then the standard RZR so if you did put the wrong belt on, it could rub inside the cover. I do have a few questions though to better nail this down an answere if you did install the proper belt. Is the rubbing on the cover in between the primary and secondary clutch :?: Is the primary clutch showing the rubbing on the cover :?: Or is the secondary clutch showing the rubbing on the cover :?: ......

I had the same question Dale until I re-read his post. "will rub up and down the middle belt cover as if it would be too lousse". I am assuming it is the wrong belt and flopping when Primary open and secondary closed (idle) as you suggest.

I would most likely would say that was the problem. The reason I asked for more detail is because with mine I had an issue with the primary clutch extending out a little farther due to the washer under the primary retaining bolt had wore into the clutch housing just a little bit and it started rubbing on the cover. The factory washer really needs to be a little wider and replacing it with one fixed the problem. It was caused by the clutch hammering the stop washer and it really does not have that much meat or surface area against the clutch housing.....

#126 Re: Yamaha Rhino Performance Mods » 450 Rhino High Flow Billet Fuel Pickup.. HELP » 2011-05-09 16:44:55

I know it makes no sense all the billet high flows have two outlets. And they are on just about every web site for Rhinos.

Like mentioned, the second port is used for the fuel tank vent according to the good old rhino 660 manual big_smile ....

#127 Re: Yamaha Rhino Performance Mods » 450 Rhino High Flow Billet Fuel Pickup.. HELP » 2011-05-09 16:31:04

I looked in my rhino 660 manual and it says the second hose is a fuel tank vent hose. I am still not sure why the vent hose is coming off the same block as the fuel suction hose since it would cause a fuel suction or priming issue to the pump but that is what they say it is used for in the manual roll ....

#128 Re: Yamaha Rhino Performance Mods » 450 Rhino High Flow Billet Fuel Pickup.. HELP » 2011-05-09 16:04:28

I have a 07 Rhino 450 and see the Billet High Flow Billet Fuel Pickup on just about every site. My question is on my factory pickup it only has one line out the high flow Billet has two . What do you hook to the other line out ? On all these sites it clearly says for 450 and 660. Little help please

Had to look this up and I still do not know why it has two ports :?: I guess you could plug the small one and just run the bigger port since you say yours only has one port :idea: It would be useless if it was used for a second fuel tank and also would be of no use for any pressure gauges roll Maybe it is built for older and newer models and the new ones have the second port. As of 2011 new EPA and Carb smog regulations require EVAP on stuff and I have not looked to see if any of the new polarises include EVAP canisters yet. I was at lowes the other day and all the new Generators now have the canister installed, but that extra port is on the suction side of a pump and would not work for EVAP. In other words, I do not know roll ....

#129 Re: General Polaris Ranger and Polaris RZR Discussions » RZR `S` 2009 clutch and belt » 2011-05-09 15:42:43

In 2009, the RZR-s runs a different belt then the standard RZR so if you did put the wrong belt on, it could rub inside the cover. I do have a few questions though to better nail this down an answere if you did install the proper belt. Is the rubbing on the cover in between the primary and secondary clutch :?: Is the primary clutch showing the rubbing on the cover :?: Or is the secondary clutch showing the rubbing on the cover :?: ......

#131 Re: General Polaris Ranger and Polaris RZR Discussions » Crankcase overfill » 2011-05-07 18:05:59

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I have a 2009 polaris RZR-S,whenever I change the oil and filter upon finishing the dipstick shows overfull.I use 2 qts.of oil as is called for,warm it up and drain it on a level surface.Im really getting frustrated as nobody seems to have a logical explanation for this.Am I doing something wrong?

You are not doing anything wrong. I noticed this on the Polaris ranger years ago and and it is OK. I also have the same problem with my ford Ranger and 5.0 Mustang, they claim 5 qts but it always shows over full after the change. it has never been an issue so since then I always imagine where the oil was at the time of the oil change and make sure that is the new level afterwards till the next change. It always comes out the same way every time......

#132 Re: General Discussion about Yamaha Rhinos » 660 Rhino hard to start after a few days.... » 2011-05-06 22:51:36

That black plastic thing is a roll over valve, it is there to keep fuel from poring out when you roll the Rhino on the hood. Now I know that you are not going to do that!! Ride safe, don't do dumb stuff.

Thank you for the very good information and input big_smile. I do not think he intends to do a roll over as well as do dumb stuff roll  wink .

#133 Re: General Discussion about Yamaha Rhinos » 660 Rhino hard to start after a few days.... » 2011-05-05 11:19:21

I have a 07 660 rhino...After I park it for a few days it is hard to start from lack of fuel. I have a buddy that put a boat priming bubble inline to help prime his( he runs out of gas alot). Is this a common problem or what fuel pump can I add on to help stop this?

Thanks

My friends carbureted rhino had the same problems and he carried a can of ether with him everywhere. I do not recommend this due to the fact that ether has been known to cause engine damage :shock: .

I had read somewhere that someone corrected this problem with the use of a electric fuel pump and a fuel regulator. This would fill the fuel bowl as soon as the key is turned on that would eliminate cranking the engine to fill the bowl. I think the rhino uses a different system and maybe someone can fill in the blanks.....

#134 Re: Events, Rallies, & Races » Rally on the Rocks » 2011-05-05 10:09:03

Its a 2005 F350 & The edge programmer is gone. I have had the head gaskets and bolts replaced, 2 egr and oiler coolers, and some sensors and egr valves. No fuel injectors yet maybe because I believe in new fuel filters often.
Latest was a runaway, but they tied it to the acceleration control (gas pedal assembly) and now also diagnosed with a FICM for another 900.00, the 50k truck is pushing 60k now, and less than 53,000 miles.

Sorry, I didn't really mean to hijack the thread but thought I could help out since I noticed your problem and should have PM'd you on it instead :oops: . To Kyles Statement, The Ford versus Dodge versus GM wars will go on forever wink . I am actully dodge at heart and love the dodge trucks as well, but as a reminder to him and others, all of the manufactures have had there pluses and minuses and they all come with a there own list of issues that I could very easily get into big_smile , but this is not the thread to do it on or even really discuss it on anyways. Anyways, everyone have a great trip to moab and enjoy. I will be looking forward to the pictures and videos big_smile. If you need anything let me know.

As for the gas pedal control fasttrax, that would be a new problem with the truck that I have not heard or seen before on this truck roll .

#135 Re: Events, Rallies, & Races » Rally on the Rocks » 2011-05-04 15:14:22

Mine should be about rebuilt now. No fuel injectors yet but that'll be next. You know it's not a good sign when the service manager tells you the best thing to do is get out of it. Ford bought back 5-600 of the first 6.0 before International threw up their arms about it. If Ford doesn't help anymore than I am going to a neighbor who is a deisel machanic from here out to "bulletproof" it. I don't have 65k for a new one.

Most of the buy backs were caused by destroyed engines caused by the fuel in oil problems. what year is the one you have and what was the latest problem? I have done almost all the upgrades on some of my friends trucks. I have only a few done to mine due to the lack of money now days but all that will happen down the road when I need to pull the heads. I quite running the power adders till then because some of the issues like the head bolts are cause by turbo over pressure and the added timing that the tuners have. Anyways If you need any questions answered I pretty much have researched every problem and fix on the 6.0. as a reminder you are lucky that you do not have a 6.4 because they get 1/3rd less mileage and even though the 6.7 has all that new power, it sure has a lot of new EPA mandated and very expensive smog equipment that has not proven itself yet. You also need to run a new DPF Fluid that is stored in a second tank.....

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