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#1 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » St. George and area » 2012-01-22 20:53:19

3TV

Speaking of riding in the St. George area, February 25th is the date for the Rhino Rally this year.  The Rhino Rally has nothing to do with Yamaha Rhino's; it is a motorcycle desert race hosted by the Wizards MC.  Warner Valley and the desert south of Warner Valley, in Arizona, will be closed to recreational riding that day, for the desert race.  Just letting you know so you can plan your trip a little better.  Have fun.

#2 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » Hangin Tree Trail (Ut) tomorrow 11-26-11 » 2011-11-27 16:03:52

3TV

Wish I would have seen this sooner.  Hope you all had a good time.  Maybe next time I can make it.

#3 Re: The X Spot » WHITE KNUCKLE UNASSISTED RZR - MOAB, UTAH! » 2011-11-08 21:56:34

3TV

I led Behind The Rocks trail for 11 years for the Easter Jeep Safari.  I must say I was surprised after reading the topic line, that this was a video of someone coming down white knuckle hill unassisted.  Everyone comes down white knuckle hill.  The challenge was always to go back up white knuckle hill unassisted.  Any Rzr's going up white knuckle hill?

#4 Re: The X Spot » WildCats At Sand Mountain, Little Sahara! » 2011-11-03 14:16:49

3TV

Its too bad they came up so short in the horsepower department.  Arctic Cat is 20 hp less than they claimed they were going to be with the marketing hype.  If they would have came through with the 95 hp people were expecting we might have been looking at a new best in class sport side by side.  As it is now, the Wildcat wont be the fastest, and whether it is best in suspension or handling will be open for debate.

#5 Re: General Discussion about Yamaha Rhinos » Can a Rhino 700 Run with the best of em » 2011-11-02 19:04:21

3TV

Don't get a RZR unless you want to spend 50% of your time working on it because they break something every other time they go out it seems.

I'm going to disagree with this one as well.  A highly modded Rhino is going to require far more wrenching than a stock Rzr XP.  My modded Rhino left me stranded three times, and I got to the point where I would put a wrench on every nut and bolt on the machine before taking it for any ride.  I constantly wrenched on it.  My Rzr XP is only a 2012 model, so it doesn't have a long track record, but so far it is 100% reliable.  The only wrenches I've used so far have been for an oil and filter change at 12 hours, 25 hours, and 50 hours on the engine clock.

#6 Re: General Discussion about Yamaha Rhinos » Can a Rhino 700 Run with the best of em » 2011-11-01 18:38:05

3TV

Yama450yfz,
based on your user name I'm going to assume you're a Yamaha fan.  I am as well, I've owned three YFZ 450s, and more other Yamaha's than any other brand of motorsport toy.  I've owned two Rhino's.

But I'm going to give you a straight answer, and not just try to help you look at the world with rose colored glasses, so that everything looks rosey.  If you want a bad ass SxS that will run with the best of them, I would not start with a Rhino.  I would consider a Rhino to be a first generation UTV.  The Teryx, Rzr 800, and Commader are second generation UTVs.  The XP 900 and perhaps the new Wildcat are third generation UTVs.  Each generation is markedly better than the prior generation, and by the time you get that much improvement with each generation, comparing a first generation UTV to a third generation UTV is, well, no comparison at all.  The latest generation of SxS are exponentially better than the first generation SxS.  I spent $15K in mods on my last Rhino, and it was seriously trick, with a long travel Elka suspension, aftermarket cage, intake mods, piston, cam, exhaust mods, you name it.  My XP 900 works better and has far more performance right off the show room floor. 

You can buy a Rhino if you want, and you can spend a lot of money modding it, but why not start with a SxS that is much much better right from the start?

#7 Re: Where to Ride? » Coral Pink Dunes to Mt Carmel Junction » 2011-09-20 17:46:15

3TV

We sure had a good time, and only almost sank the XP one time.

Chournos, Link for pictures no worky.  :?

#8 Re: Where to Ride? » Coral Pink Dunes to Mt Carmel Junction » 2011-09-14 11:02:38

3TV

No, I've only owned it for eight days now, and I don't have a winch (or anything else) yet.

#9 Re: Where to Ride? » Coral Pink Dunes to Mt Carmel Junction » 2011-09-14 08:38:18

3TV

Come join us Brad.  Southern UT just got 2 1/2" of rain last night.  The river crossings may be "interesting" on Sunday if there was enough rain for some flash flooding.  Chournos, do any of the other UTVs that are going have a winch?

#10 Re: Where to Ride? » Coral Pink Dunes to Mt Carmel Junction » 2011-09-13 08:21:21

3TV

I was just looking at the five day weather forcast on the navigation system of my Jeep on the way to work this morning, and it says for southern UT they are predicting thunderstorms on saturday, but sunny weather on sunday.  We did this trail in the rain last weekend, so I'd rather do it in the sunshine this time.  I'll plan on Sunday.  Send me a PM so we can pick a place and time to meet up.  We'll be coming from the north, on highway 89, and passing the dunes on the way to the trailhead.

#11 Re: Where to Ride? » Coral Pink Dunes to Mt Carmel Junction » 2011-09-13 06:12:26

3TV

We're going back down there this Saturday.  Any chance you could be there a day early, and we'll show you where the trail is?  Then again, maybe we could go a day later.

In any case, the easiest way to find the trail is to start from the Mt. Carmel Junction end.  You enter the Virgin River Gorge just south of Mt. Carmel Junction and follow the main road in the canyon until you come to the closed gate that is a few miles down the road.  Turn left at the gate and follow the trail in the river bottom, it is the only way through.  The second easiest way to find the trail is to drive down Sand Dunes Road from the Coral Pink Dunes, to the Arizona state line, then turn around and coime back one miile.  There is a BLM sign on the east side of the road, and a staging area on the west side of the road.  Follow the road to the west until it drops into the Virgin River Gorge, then follow the trail north to Mt. Carmel Junction.  There are several forks in the road along the way, and you may need to backtrack a time or two.  You will need to locate the Virgin River Gorge in the distance and just keep heading that way. There are slickrock bluffs that you will skirt the southern base of just before dropping down into the gorge (see pictures above).

I need to bring my GPS this trip and write down some coordinates.

#12 Re: Where to Ride? » Coral Pink Dunes to Mt Carmel Junction » 2011-09-12 18:03:39

3TV

Trail begins one mile south of the Coral Pink Sand Dunes, in southern Utah, one mile north of the Arizona state line, on the west side of Sand Dunes Road, and travels west, northwest to Mt. Carmel Junction.  This trail is largely sand, with some slickrock.  In the Virgin River Gorge you will need to cross the Virgin River roughly 30 times, and this trip is not recommended in spring time.  Plan on eating lunch at the Thunderbird Lodge in Mt. Carmel Junction at mid-day (they have exellent food), then returning via the same route in the Afternoon.  Total distance is roughly 35 miles.  We took the trip this last weekend with the wife and I in our Rzr XP 900, one of our sons on his KTM 300 XC, and our other son on his YFZ 450.  It rained all day, so I don't have pictures from this trip.  The stream crossings were more difficult than usual for this time of year, and our son on the YFZ 450 needed assistance six times to make it through the toughest stream crossings.  The Rzr XP and the KTM dirt bike made it no problems.  There is a long steep sand hill at the south end of the river crossing section where you climb out of the Virgin River Gorge that will provide a challenge for low powered side by sides.

Here are pictures from a previous trip.


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#13 Re: Where to Ride? » Are the a lot width restrictions on ATV trails in Utah? » 2011-09-12 17:28:47

3TV

There are actually a lot of 50" trails in Utah, and I have spent the last decade searching them out and riding them.  There are a few on the Paiute trail system, several on the Arapeen trail system, and several on the Gooseberry trail system.  It seems like the better trails are 50" trails, at least those are the better trails when you are riding an ATV.  The Great Western Trail section of the Gooseberry trail system, south of I-70, is spectacular in how challenging it is.  Or maybe that was because we rode that 70 mile section of trail in an all day long pouring down rain, and mud holes became seat deep water holes and the major stream crossing was deep enough to wash the YFZ 450 in our group downstream.  The Paunsaugunt trail system is largely unrestricted, but Casto Canyon, which is one of the more spectacular trails in the state for scenery, is restricted to 50" vehicles. There are at least two other trails in the Paunsaugunt trail system that are also restricted to 50" vehicles, one of which is the trail through Rocky Ford, on the trail from Circleville to Antimony.  This trail is also spectacular, and crosses through a deep ford with sheer rock walls and ponderosa pine trees that are 6 feet in diameter and 100 feet tall.  You wouldn't even know you were in Utah on this section of trail.  The Markagunt trail system used to have 50" restrictions, but has changed in the last year, and now restricts vehicles to 60" width in several places.  Just one thing though, I measured one of their 60" gates, and it was 67" wide.  They now have signs that have an ATV symbol with a circle around it, another symbol of a UTV with a circle around it, and a symbol of a Jeep with a circle around it that has a line through it.  So with the Markagunt trail system you can ride the whole thing with a side by side.

Even with the number of 50" trails, there are an even greater number of excellent trails that are not restricted to vehicles less than a 50" width.  If you want to come ride in Utah, don't let the 50" trail restrictions stop you.

#14 Re: General Polaris Ranger and Polaris RZR Discussions » How do you like your RZR? » 2011-09-10 05:48:05

3TV

I was referring to "top dog" in sales, not performance.  I agree, the Ranger XP had the Rhino beat in performance from day one.

Just one more thing to think about for how far side by sides have came in the last 4 years...  The 2007 Rhino in my signature had a $7000 aftermarket suspension system on it, with top of the line Elka shocks and 14" of suspension travel.  My 2012 Rzr XP 900 also has 14" of suspension travel.  The stock suspension on this Rzr XP works better right off the showroom floor than the Rhino did with an extra $7000 thrown at it.

#15 Re: General Polaris Ranger and Polaris RZR Discussions » New 570 Rzr » 2011-09-08 11:58:29

3TV

This could be a nice little trail riding side by side for 50" trails.  It has a single cylinder version of the Pro Star 900 engine Polaris built for the XP 900, with a new transmission mated to that engine.  0 to 35 mph speed is just 0.1 second slower than a Rzr 800.  For tight woods it might be a whole lot of fun.  I agree it would make a great second UTV for the kids to drive, ... the 170 was way too small.

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