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#61 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » WERE IN MOAB!!! » 2008-11-17 19:16:19

Yeah, it is by far my favorite trail I've done there so far. I want to do behind the rocks sometime too. Other than that, I think we've run all the hardest trails out there now...I guess we need to hit BFE next, huh! smile

Chris

#62 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » WERE IN MOAB!!! » 2008-11-17 17:45:07

Here's what happens when you take an in-experienced driver on Pritchet Canyon:

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For the rest of the pics, go here: http://www.utvrally.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423

I'll eventually get to the videos as I get time.

Chris

#64 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » WERE IN MOAB!!! » 2008-11-15 21:58:56

Yeah, I'd say we have plenty of good pics and video.

Chris

#65 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » WERE IN MOAB!!! » 2008-11-15 21:31:33

Pritchet was fantastic! Best trail I've been on in Moab so far.

Chris

#66 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » WERE IN MOAB!!! » 2008-11-14 21:12:15

Pritchet Canyon and Behind the Rocks tomorrow!!!! Yeah!

Chris

#67 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » Moab in November....now » 2008-11-13 07:54:03

Are you guys planning on riding this afternoon?

Chris

#68 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » Moab in November....now » 2008-11-12 23:45:04

I just arrived at the Super 8 with Shannon(Redman). We'll be meeting in morning 8am'ish in Super 8 parking lot, then heading to the trailhead. Is anyone else in town for a ride tomorrow(Thursday)?

Chris

#71 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » Moab in November....now » 2008-11-12 10:30:47

Well, I tell ya I've had truck trouble from hell the last month and half, that's for sure. Another $1800 for shocks and tires today. $8K in the last month and half...anybody know anybody that can blow it up for me? smile

Chris

#72 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » Moab in November....now » 2008-11-11 21:37:28

Hey guys,

I'm bringing my set of 4 stock axles for a RZR in case you crazy guys break something. Is $100/axle fair? I have no idea what they are new...mine have about 30 hours on them and one probably has less than 5 because the original broke.

Chris

#73 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » Moab in November....now » 2008-11-10 23:36:46

You're correct. The 700's were lean, but the 800's are not.

Chris

#74 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » Moab in November....now » 2008-11-10 22:27:52

That's the theory, but the stock AFR's of the RZR are too rich to begin with, so after adding the pipe, we still pulled fuel out of the curves to maximize power.

I found the same with a Suzuki EFI with a new pipe. Initial setup on the Dyno was fine, added the pipe and the ratio was too rich. Talked to a guy at BUB that was running the Dyno and he said it's pretty common

What is really weired is that all ATVs and all UTVs must meet federal emissions standards like lawn equipment before they can be sold now so if they are to rich they could not pass :?: , That is really weired :?: , That would mean that the stock system would be less restrictive then the aftermarket system, When you move more air through the engine you need to compensate with more fuel, That means the engine would have leaned out to do that, In every race car i have dealt with when we take the exhaust off the header collectors we had to go up in jetting to compensate, That is the reason when you go up in altitude the older carburated cars start to run way to rich because of the lack of air, as for the Polaris and your Suzuki It may be because the the ECU and the T-map sensor gets confused and starts adding to much fuel to the fuel map because of the aftermarket system, That would be the only answer to this question, After all They do not have an O2 sensor seeing what is coming out of the engine to compensate, The ecu's aren't smart enough :idea:, Any how this thread was not meant for auto shop 101 and I will stop babbling on this lol .

I don't disagree with you, but we just tested 10 different pipes with fuel controllers and had to decrease fuel on every single one at certain points in the curve and only on the better pipes had to add some fuel to compensate for the additional flow. We'll have all the PC curves available soon on our website.

Chris

#75 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » Moab in November....now » 2008-11-10 08:52:13

We didn't test that one, but based on the 10 we did test, I'd say your best bet for maximum power would the power commander, so you can remove fuel from the stock curve. If you can't get to a dyno to test it, though, I'd run the stock curve. Adding more fuel will reduce power with your pipe, most likely. But, I can let you know what all I have tomorrow, if you're really stuck on having one. smile

Chris

Adding a pipe does not richin the mixture, It leans it, You will need to add fuel when you put a pipe on :!: .

That's the theory, but the stock AFR's of the RZR are too rich to begin with, so after adding the pipe, we still pulled fuel out of the curves to maximize power.

Chris

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